PR Beyonder was above all beings in marvel. Reviews. LocatiNew Comics. Because PR Beyonder was a multiverse personified, so does that mean that each of these new Beyonders are also their own Multiverse? No. Even with her 50/50 negated by her spear, Gungnir, Othinus is in no way comparable to the likes of PR Beyonder or even Beyonder post-retcon. Dr Manhattan isn't a match for Galactus, and Galactus is a mere insect to the Beyonder. The PR Beyonder saw the multiverse as a. Childlike and vastly powerful, he grew up in a universe created by the other Beyonders for their young. 13 years ago. While Manhattan is a multiversal entity tribunal is. 313. Flagged (sorry!) 11 years ago. Team 1 wins. The Living Tribunal was able to stop the Infinity Gaunlet from working, while PR Molecule Man stated to be stronger than all other beings in the Multiverse, Including Abstracts, and the Living Tribunal . Forum Posts. The Ivory Kings are still not at PRB's level, and shouldn't be regarded as his equals, let alone his superiors. Doom with Beyonder's powers was afraid to use even half of it, as he worried it would destroy the universe. Thus he is more more powerful than Fulcrum who may or may not be. With just the Beyonders it would be a good battle and "might" even favor the DC trio for the win. The One Above All. Ultra (Ultraman) 4. Beyonder was the one above all before TOAAPre-Retcon Beyonder kills Thanos no matter what the circumstances are. A universe that is more powerful. PR Beyonder 1B likely 1A. Apr 2014. Eru Iluvatar (in a contest of who made a cooler world) Lucifer, Thanos, Dr. 3rd. So because of Doom holding back, Michael can win. I'm not sure that PR MM is as strong as TLT because even when PR Beyonder and PR MM fought and stalemated, Beyonder as stated by MM only used a fraction of his power. PR Beyonder face tanked an attack that could destroy a billion dimensions. 0. However PR Beyonder has more power than basically all of existence and attacks that destroyed multiverses were nothing to him. Trust me bud, and until you have scans, it ain’t true. Follow 26437. The beyonder can warp reality and time as well as creating a real life setting. Goku vs Pre Recton Beyonder. deactivated-5e0e83bb0dbb5. 11 years ago. Mxy still bitches every Darkseid save for Infinite Frontier since we don’t know yet. ago. Protege wouldn't have been able to copy Beyonder's powers unless he allowed it. Post-Retcon Beyonder vs a Full-Powered Franklin Richards. K. Beyonder saying he's omnipotent or gaining back his powers doesn't confirm his omnipotence. Lucifer Morningstar rated 1A. Not only that, but the mirrors contained nothing more than aborted universes. PR Beyonder. The PR Beyonder isn't from the universe and isn't bound by its limitations. The Two fight in the beyond realm. No chance of being omnipotent. Forum Posts. Gen. The one who shines like Gold upon the Sea of Chaos can beat Cosmic Armor Superman. 1 Winner: The Beyonder. Actually i think you have a misconception of the timelines buddy that or your hating on the Marquis of death. LT, Multi-Eternity, Death, Galactus etc. Adding God Doom is just too much. where an argument can be made for either CAS or PR Beyonder. 11 years ago. There's a few tossups though, I think the Bleach verse has the speed and skill to pull out a win here or there. PR Beyonder existed before all things in existence he was. See moreJoin this channel to get access to perks:…PR Beyonder was millions of times powerful than the entire Marvel Multiverse. The Living Tribunal's domain is the multiverse he's from, the Beyonder is the entire surrounding Beyond personified. Standard equipment. Pre-ret Beyonder was not god, and he was not TOAA. Nihilist. Battle 1SpidermanBatman Captin America Deadpool Storm Magneto Cyclops Wolverine Kitty Pryde Jean Grey(without PF) Juggernaut Red Hulk Savage Hulk Grey@Pr_Beyonder said: " Did Lucifer make an Dc's appearences? or is Vertigo accounted for when refferencing DC(I know they're the same company:P)? " Lucifer made 2 cameo appearances in the third. Follow 7842. If it's spiderman with the power of PR Beyonder then he should win. Dr Manhattan isn't a match for Galactus, and Galactus is a mere insect to the Beyonder. Battle takes place in an infinite omniverse. "You'll notice every cosmic being/entity in there, from the LT to Eternity. M. The Beyonder is an infamous member of the Beyonder race. " @Pr_Beyonder said: " @Morpheus_ said: "Michael already defeated the Spectre, in the Spectre's own series, no less. Round 2: CAS VS PR Beyonder with Living Tribunal. The deciding factor imo is that Lucifer is a bloody genius. If that's true, the Presence would be way weaker then PR Beyonder. COIE fully powered anti monitor was the entire DC multiverse, his reality warping and. PR Beyonder is intended to be a god within another dimension but this doesn't then make him incapable of being compared to TOAA, especially because PR Beyonder would be effected by the universe. 7. PR Beyonder's power was likened to an ocean while the Marvel Universe was said to be a drop of water in comparison. Some dude told me this guy was strong but i think goku can with with. But if you are ONLY going FEATS wise, then Classic Beyonder takes it. His isn't from another universe. PR Beyonder is a casual multiverse buster. ago. @eredin12: solar system level is roughly 150 times star level if you use our sun and solar. Lucifer and Michael are powerhouses but so is PR Beyonder. ShootingNova. Thats why Molecule Man (who is weaker than PR Beyonder, but shares his powers) was able to fix it with little to no effort. Jul 30, 2018. PR Beyonder is on par with TOAA but people tend to put him below because TOAA are Stan Lee and Jack Kirby. No BFRs and the battle takes place in the forge of creation. With Marvel having beings like the LT, Protege,PR Beyonder,PR Molecule Man,Scanthan The Approver,Multi-Eternity,Oblivion,Life Bringer Galactus and many others. PR Beyonder is way beyond than Thanos with IG. Bonus Round: Pre-Retcon Molecule Man should also stomp IG Thanos. Even a fight between Dr Manhattan and Franklin Richards, Manhattan out 9/10 lose. Composite Spidey is powerful but gets pushed aside first I’d say, even wit the powers of the Beyonder race. lazerbeak. PR Beyonder still wins unless of course that's MF Mxy which I doubt it is (and even if it was some idiot would argue that actually being able to change the beyonder into a turd doesn't count for. PR Beyonder (Marvel) Takes A DC Gauntlet. ". So LT + Abstracts + Ultimate Nullifier + other beings of the whole multi-verse other than Molecule. Phoenix is on par with those guys. Doom, and Constantine team up, trick Presence into coming to Marvel Universe where he isn't. living tribunal could not do a damn thing 12 years ago. This group is a joke compared to Celestials. The Beginners Guide To Comics:. Supposedly it is equal but opposite to the Presence. Goku vs Pre Recton Beyonder. Still "omniverse" is a nonsense. doomsday49. Pre Retcon Beyonder has been nearly killed before by lesser being and has been outsmarted more than once by people so far below his power level. Take the hill. #23 Edited By MrDirector786. 2. This is pre-retcon Beyonder. 8 years ago. Posted by u/galactusisathiccboi - 4 votes and 14 commentsLol at Battler stronger than PR Beyonder. PR Beyonder is more powerful than Marvels TOAA(who was defeated by Thanos with an Astral Regulator). Bleach should lose in nearly everything. This is a massive mismatch. PR beyonder can call upon the other beyonders as well to help if he needs it. Wiki Points. Discussion; Bug Reporting; Delete/Combine PagesIt could be argued that the HOTU is as powerful as pre-retcon Beyonder, but even if you were to successfully argue that, it's two beings of PR-Beyonder level power against one HOTU. " 13 years ago Pr_BeyonderRandom encounter. Forum Posts. Beyonder is the bigger god. Forums. PR Beyonder is barley baseline just through making the beyond verse. FollowPR Beyonder was never defeated in combat, no one can defeat him. . If Iron Man can. Kryptonian (Superman) 2. Beyonder escaped. Alien X is free of any indecisiveness, and both are bloodlusted. LT's powers/status was never set, hence the whole retcon deal. 0. This puts Beyonder at LT+ with MM a close second, followed by the Beyonders and HOTU. PF wont last 1 minute in the fight. Location. Now picture a third Brother that is so big, the Amalgam Brothers are 2 drops of water next to the ocean. This is way larger than the entire Marvel verse and DC verse. EDIT: About Beyonder being gullible and "getting his power's stolen". Round 3 Pre-retcon Beyonder takes this and with a good level of ease. PR Beyonder. Knowsbleed33 says: "PR Beyonder took out a group of Celestials with ease. He is talking about TOAA, not PR Beyonder. Follow 75. Beyonder doesn't stand a chance, Beyonder is a little germ compared to the thought robot, and it would instantly get immune to beyonder reality warping. PR Beyonder was TOAA before TOAA was ever a thought. British_Tea_Company • 7 yr. Current Beyonder is below the Living Tribunal however. Without the Pre-Retcon clause, Beyonder is ridiculously hosed, being outclassed by a Cosmic Cube. Beyonder is the bigger god. And Secret Wars Beyonder would annihilate all versions. A fraction is still much more power than basic reality warping. PR Beyonder is stronger than all Marvel universe and its beings combined by far. That is how PR Beyonder was described, a verse so vast, that Marvel was a drop in the. u/nullfather can attest to that. Round 1: No prep time. 4 years ago. Couple of things; 1) It's a bit disingenuous to insinuate that I'm claiming that Flash has no limits. ReplyOkay so i want to go to war with the JLA and I'd like to build a team from Viners to do so. No. TOAA; Presence; Great Evil Beast; Living Tribunal; Scathan; Protégé; PR-Beyonder; PR-Molecule Man; Lucifer Morningstar; Michael Demiurgos. ago. edit3: There is one mutant whose ability is retcon. at the time "Don't make me post a pic of you in that one armor. Retconned/Modern Beyonder < Ivory Kings. Marvel - Living Tribunal, PR- MM and Beyonder, HoTU MAYBE DC-Fully Powered Spectre, CA Superman, Mandrakk, Nix Uotan Marvel- Multi-Eternity? I don't know a lot about Marvel cosmics. 9 years ago. 9 years ago. Mike+Luxy would be at least equal to PR Beyonder/Molecule Man/Mandrakk/Living Tribunal. 6 years ago. PR Beyonder is OP, he was originally written to be THE top entity in Marvel, there's no real beating him. The biggest parallel would be the Beyonder, IMO (or possibly the Beyonders). Ruphas not in baseline L1A, Ruphas can easily defeated Alovenus which is rated L1A character. 6th. PR Beyonder existed before all things in existence he was. anyways Q isn't omnipotent either and he doesn't have any feats that rival PR Beyonder so PR Beyonder. Neither is the fact that PR Beyonder was millions of times more powerful than everything in the entirety of the multiverse. R5: Dr. Thats why Molecule Man (who is weaker than PR Beyonder, but shares his powers) was able to fix it with little to no effort. Representing Marvel:ThanosDr DoomPre-recton BeyondeSorry Merc. Holo-Man • 3 yr. Besides when PR Beyonder and PR Molecular Man fought , we know MM was Beyonder's only friend. The art work and what not is horrible. It's more like PR Molecule Man was in a unique situation to fight Beyonder because Molecule Man's powers were derrived from PR Beyonder's Dimension. Follow 3074. The Beyonder is strong, but not exactly the strongest. Dr Manhattan is a very proficient matter-energy manipulator. Mate living tribunal has killed the beyonder. 13 years. PR Beyonder and it’s not a fight. PR Molecule Man. " @Pr_Beyonder said: " @Decoy Elite: Hey,Disco suits were B. The PR Beyonder isn't from the universe and isn't bound by its limitations. 815. Beyonder has curb-stomped Celestials and even killed Death, a thing that was so irreversible that not even the most powerful of beings could fix it, besides himself. Reviews: 4. RULES:Morals off. also i've read that suggsverse is basically a troll comic. Well, uh. ultimatewarrior123. Followers. 15. 5. #23 Edited By MrDirector786. While The Living Tribunal is rated 1-A (more than The Beyonder)and 616 Eternity or Multi-Eternity is rated High 1-B (same as The Beyonder). Pr beyonder blinks away a nigh omni that treat beings that treat beings that treat beings that are multiversal++ level like an outright folder right? She basically controls the plot of her verse. Start off twenty feet away. Home Lists Doctor Manhattan Vs. 11 years ago. Round 1: CAS vs. Based on physics, molecules, space and time. Followers. Or that the enitre multiverse was stated to be a mere droplet of water. #1 Edited By gokupwnzalllol. green_skaar. LT's powers/status was never set, hence the whole retcon deal. "You'll notice every cosmic being/entity in there, from the LT to Eternity. Round 3 and 4: Same as round 1 and 2 without Infinity Gaunlet or Heart of the Universe. Especially considering the only other times to my knowledge I’ve seen PR Beyonder has “struggled” in a fight was when he clashed with Molecule Man and when he admitted Classic Doctor Strange could have incapacitate him indefinitely. 14 years ago Lance. Forum Posts. Forum Posts. The man with the blue privates exists only b/c the man from beyond allows him to. ShootingNova. And even then some endless beat pr beyonder. He's more PR Beyonder level imo. Merely has ultimate molecular control. They have been - however, the influence of the Phoenix now extends to the realm of the Beyonders, which is the same realm where the Beyonder from the 80s is from. 4 years ago. I just think with 15 minutes, they can pull something off. Even PR Beyonder is just an infinite dimensional reality warper, and the Archetypes whom are significantly weaker than the Outer Gods control infinite dimensional multiverses and beings like chess. Following Secret. Okay I've got a theory, you're either a bot or a really young kid who's interested in Battleboarding and is just throwing random characters out to see what's happening. 3rd. buster wise, and low level reality warper, that stuffPR Beyonder feats, Chuck Norris facts, Woody Wood Pecker whatevers. PR Beyonder can also create and destroy multiverses (reality, dimensions, etc) at a higher level than even the Living Tribunal can. Alot of people seem to have hard time giving HOM Wanda her due. Wiki Points. While secret wars came out in 1984 it extended to 1985 which i believe was when Molecule man made his secret wars appearance. Example: I have taken the hill and have the death star watIt can and has been argued that PR Beyonder exceeds TOAA in power, whereas the HotU apparently. #12 Edited By Montaq. ReplyFor this fight: PR MM was written to be above any entity from Marvel Ominverse, except PR Beyonder of course. If you love to imagine the planet-exploding battles of the fictional gods who will never be, taking…Marvel has only hype, pr beyonder is the only char to be so hyped he is seen as the strongest. Created by writer Jim Shooter and artist Mike Zeck, the Beyonder first appeared in Secret Wars #1 (May 1984) as an unseen, nigh-omnipotent being from outside the multiverse who kidnapped the heroes and villains of the Marvel. Pre-retcon Molecule Man hasn't paid his taxes in like, 10 years, since he's been been galavanting around the universe. I forget her name. 13 years ago. Knowsbleed33 says: "PR Beyonder took out a group of Celestials with ease. FollowHere's the deal. However, that is NOT always the most accurate way to decipher a victory. The Crimson King decides he's bored and decides to start trolling other verses. The living embodiment of The Beyond Realm, a reality outside of the Marvel multiverse, he utilizes his powers over reality, space, and time to observe the never-ending battle between good and evil, serving as both an ally and enemy to Earth's greatest heroes. Hard to call in terms of power. Matezoide2. Posts. Doctor Manhattan is one of the most formidable beings around but his powers are all based on what it is possible. And how do we know PR Beyonder could blink LT out of existence, he could blink lady death out of. The Beyonder (/ b i ˈ ɒ n d ər /) is a fictional cosmic entity appearing in American comic books published by Marvel Comics. 5 years ago. Manhattan has never shown any feats to even suggest him being at Beyonder's level. So who wins this epic clash to end all clashes? Pre-Retcon Beyonder vs Thanos w/ Infinity Gauntlet. PR Beyonder was the most powerful entity sans TOAA in the marvel multiverse for a time, he was pretty much able to do whatever the hell he wanted, telling The Living Tribunal to fuck off included. It would also destroy the. also, according to the bible, he can be killed, as the incarnation of Jesus, with a few spear pokes and soem crucifiction. He is another universe, pre-big bang. Thanos with HOTU vs PR is still argued but do note all the cosmics were begging PR MM to fight Beyonder. The art work and what not is horrible. Beyonder was the one above all before TOAAPre-Retcon Beyonder kills Thanos no matter what the circumstances are. The first thing here is this is only a character. PR Beyonder, on the other hand, treated Galactus like a bug. Hell is no where near big enough for this fight. R1: PRB toys with Class 1-A, turning Bakugo into fireworks, Mineta grapes, Tsuyu a real frog you get the gist. MM is powerful enough to rebuild the marvel multiverse completely from scratch, and he was nowhere near as strong as PR Beyonder when they fought during SW2. New Comics. Dr. The Pre-Retcon Beyonder and Thanos with the Regulator both duo together to obliterate all of the other nigh-omnipotent beings in this thread. #1 Edited By bluepride1234. Perfect teamwork. Actually PR Beyonder was TOAA of his own actuality (according to Stan Lee), the purpose of his original existence was to. Lucifer & Michael vs PR Beyonder will be a better match-up. I realize the Presence is often considered more powerful than PR-Beyonder, but really, going to need feats in this case because this is not the Presence. This topic is locked from further discussion. Beyonder wins this, Lucifer along with his brother Michael are equal to LT, and PR Beyonder is better than LT any day of the week. 05-03. So adding that power to the PR Beyonder powered Victor vs IG and CC Thanos makes this a stomp is Dooms favor in my opinion. He was stated to be millions of times powerful than the Entire Marvel Multiverse Combined which even included The Living Tribunal and Molecule Man and We all know that Living Tribunal is almost as Powerful As Michael Demiurgos. Anime/Manga TeamSuper Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann, Elder God Demonbane, Giorno Giovanna (Gold Experience Requiem), Majin Dark Schneide. PR Beyonder was specifically the sum total of a multiverse that dwarfs the Marvel multiverse. 0. That scales on the top dogs of each omniverse. We're fighting the Guardians now the new ones (Hal, Atroticus, Lareeflezz, Sinestro, Carol, Saint walker, Indigo 1) Atroticus is Blood luInhuman BeyonderPost-Retcon Molecule ManLiving TribunalOblivionGalactus w/ Ultimate NulifierMad Jim JaspersHeralds of Galactus:The Fallen OneSilver SuThe Beyonder (/ b i ˈ ɒ n d ər /) is a fictional cosmic entity appearing in American comic books published by Marvel Comics. Molecule Man. Like, guys, just focus on like a planetary thing or even a system wide thing. Since his feats and stuff have. He is bigger than the multiverse, which is infinite in size. One Above All Wasnt around when PR Beyonder was, people liken PRB to what TOAA would of been at the time. also the living tribunal couldnt even do anything to PR beyonder. 0. Could not. If Doom goes at full confidence in. However, that scan of her being able to have an effect on PR Beyonder was pretty badass. . As well as being compared to Pre Crisis Spectre, who dwarfs Odin, to Galactus and classic Exitar levels. However, that scan of her being able to have an effect on PR Beyonder was pretty badass. About Press Copyright Contact us Creators Advertise Developers Terms Privacy Policy & Safety How YouTube works Test new features NFL Sunday Ticket Press Copyright. Follow 2797. IMO Lucifer convinces the Beyonder to kill himself. 13 years ago. is TOAA, or at least part of him. He tanks an attack that would destroy several billion dimensions like nothing from PR Molecule. Have not seen any impressive feats by the Angel duo. she is not omnipotent, but PR beyonder and TOAA are, and PR beyonder is at LT level, which means TOAA wins. Pr beyonder blinks away a nigh omni that treat beings that treat beings that treat beings that are multiversal++ level like an outright folder right? She basically controls the plot of her verse. this would be no different than me or you creating a character and then saying "oh look he can beat Pr Beyonder". Minor nitpick. 13 years agoAnything they can do the PR beyonder can do if not even do better. HOTU Thanos. There's a LOT of weird hax in Bleach, not even including Aizen. Just wanna point out, nexus beyonder is a thing, the goblin queen merged with beyonder corpse and gained part of his essence. The Ivory Kings are still not at PRB's level, and shouldn't be regarded as his equals, let alone his superiors. @lariend said: Missmatch any from team 2 can solo. PR Beyonder stomps this team. PM not so much. level 2 · 1y. PR Beyonder > Ivory Kings. Bonus Round: Pre-Retcon Molecule Man should also stomp IG Thanos. Hulk tanking a hit from Beyonder is an outlier too by the way. Even if Thanos had 100 years prep and had the IG, PR Beyonder erases him from existence with his hand. ) as regarding LT, you really must have. So you cant say ToAA > Pr Beyonder. 2 years ago. Yeah, and apparently PR Beyonder was a young version of the Beyonders in the prompt. As for Wanda feats she reformed the multiverse (not omniverse, just the way it was used here) and ALSO stopped/controlled/dispersed. IMO, PR Beyonder can outdo anything Bill can do and more. m99. Round 4 same as round 3 the retcon happened for a reason. PR Beyonder had full backing by Marvel Boss, Jim Shooter to do anything he wanted. Doom. He was even above and beyond the writing staff . PR Beyonder with PR Molecule man can beat the crap out of everyone. There no need to insult. 9 years ago. Forums. Marth Kent rolls up a newspaper and hits him makes him do. ago. #1 Edited By bluepride1234. I really don't want to believe. Battle takes place in an infinite omniverse. In the OVA Z made it clear him and masaki were experiments. @majestic99. not_anakin. PR Beyonder, on the other hand, treated Galactus like a bug. And of course the LT himself. PR Beyonder>PR MM>LT. Marvel (and DC for that matter) didn’t have anythin beyond Multiverses back then in their cosmology. It has been shown that in Guardians of The Galaxy (1990) #49-50 that The Living Tribunal has judgement over the Beyonder, the same Beyonder people consider to be the PR Beyonder (PR = Pre-Retconned) which iirc takes place around the same time in Fantastic Four (1961) #319 or at the very least has similar continuity. 8 years ago. MJJ is top 5 in Marvel for reality warping, but he has very limited actual feats, but its. Lucifer's power is stated to be infinit, and he is virtually omnipotent. Beyonder in a curbstomp. I do not believe he was omniscient and that is a big difference. He's an Evil Genius AND an Evil Sorceror who lives in a Dracula-castle. The Demon of Elru. PR Beyonder. lizyatearita. @Pr_Beyonder said: " @Crom-Cruach said: "GL on all of them. Forum Posts. 5 tons to punch a car. LT did not get involved in the Beyonder/Owen fight, because he knew he was outmatched, and Owen was the multiverse's only hope. Who do you think is the strongest in Marvel? Who do you think is the strongest in DC? If they fight who will win???Sure, baby 400 tonner mark LOL, also he made a weird noise just as PR Beyonder made a noise when hulk slammed him. His will is law.